I'm not gonna say there's no way Concord can't beat Havelock, but that's beyond a tall task.. I'm telling you, I watched Havelock destroy my Falcons last year... Their execution on offense is nearly flawless, defensively their as sure tacklers I had seen... You should've heard some of the sports reporters in the press box, all came away with the feeling this might be the best team in the state...

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Too bad its not like it was in the old days....would love to see Havelock & Northern Guilford duke it out. 2 top teams in 3A for all the marbles!!!! Man, I miss the old ways!!!! I expect 2 blowout victories for Havelock & NG....both will be crowned state champs. And thats not going out on a limb.

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I believe 6mvp1 has said it a couple weeks ago but I'll repeat, Concord sucks they have no chance, might as well tell Coach Padgett to forfeit.... You do realize Havelock has lost a game this season right? They aren't invincible, they can be beat.

Yeah, I figured we would get someone to come on here to say that... I really and truly thought the same thing as you UNC.. I mean come on how could a team knock off the three-time defending state champ, much less blow us out.. And thats when I discovered this is a different level of a high school team... I'm pulling for the spiders no doubt would love to see them knock off the favorites, but I just don't see it..
Havelock 42
Concord 20

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I need to hear more about BJ's injury and playing status before I make my prediction.

Spider Webb... who is your team?

CHS....tell Em don't worry about us we suck!

MVP.... I agree, we stink. there was no way we could beat a powerful West Rowan team or a very tenacious and much improved East Rowan team. Also, traveling to Burke county, Concord could never contain the Freedom HS team, they will never make it past them....and Lastly, if they ever make it to the Championship Game, they will meet the already crowned Havelock team...there is just no way.

Havelock is going to have to bleed to win it, I think Concord can return their own poison and shut out Havelock. its possible

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the paper said he jammed his thumb on his throwing hand. We don't know the severity, not sure when its going to get checked out to confirm the seriousness.

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Havelock is like the Oregon of NC high school football. No offense but I didn't see anything in Concords defense that makes me think they would shut out Havelock. Concord might win but it will be because they are able to outscore Havelock and not because Concord shut them out.

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Keeping them under 30 is the equivalent of shutting out normal hs teams... I don't think a lot of Nc college teams would shut them out... for one if you were kicking to them a lot they would atleast break one...

Havelock is a different animal. To beat them we will have to play the type of game we played against west Rowan in the second half when we blanked them 28-0... it will take a game from start to finish like that to win.

One thing people don't understand about concord....it has hurt us at times this year.... we tend to play to our opponents level. It could help us this week. Don't underestimate our kids ability to raise their level of play when the see the animAl they are competing with.

On second thought....don't worry about us.... we suck.

Havelock is on a roll. The Rams win this game easy. HAVELOCK 45 CONCORD 13

I agree we played on our oppenents level on these games:
Cox Mill L 21-28
Hickory Ridge L 21-24

However, I will use the last 5 games to show we played above our oppenents level: Its the only way you win is when you play above
Brown: W 21-14
McMichael W 51-38
West Rowan W 55-30
East Rowan W 21-20 OT
Freedom W 27-10

We are playoff tested for sure, and we have proved in these playoffs that we can win tight games, sometihng I worried about in the losses above. I don't want to see a tight game in the state game, I want to catch them off guard, and stun them just like the west rowan game!

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Havelock's only loss is to the #2 team in 4A.....and that was a 1 point loss. No 3A team has come close to beating them. The Rams have 5 or 6 kids that will be playing D1 ball next season.... next to Northern Guilford, they might be the 2nd fastest team in 3A....and the only significant loss from last year's championship team is the QB. Cooper has stepped in at QB and done great....granted, I don't know much about Concord's team, from what I've been reading, they have a significant injury they're worried about and its sound like its the QB.....if thats the case, its gonna make it that much harder to beat the defending champs.

6mvp....I gotta go with my county brother in Havelock. Not saying its gonna be a blowout (I'll recant my previous statement), but the champs are focused and hungry for the repeat.

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it is our 4,000 yard passer BJ Beecher who has 120 career tds, however, x-rays will be Monday, as far as we know, its a jammed thumb on his throwing hand. I look for BJ to play whether its a go or not

His brother Tommy played in the 2004 state final with a torn shoulder lubrum in his throwing shoulder.

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Jaydog that was whole point. We have played down to our comp at times and up to our comp at times.

Spider Webb,
They are by far the best team we have seen, I don't think anyone who is involved with our team is delusional about that. Cooper is a sensational athlete and Scott is tremendous at the rb position. I talked to a guy this weekend who coached in craven county. He was telling me how well their coach has developed their team and how good these kids were coming up through the pee wee ranks through middle school...one question I have...tell us about the kids outside of Scott and cooper who have committed to d 1 schools... I know there is a d lineman too

It is going to take a whole other level of play from Concord than what the Spiders showed in the games they played in the playoffs to bring home a win against Havelock. The teams you played in the playoffs have not prepared you for what the Rams will bring to the field next Saturday. Good luck Concord..........you will need a lot of it!

This years concord team is easily a 3 td better team than last years west team

Well unfortunately for you 6mvp1, this isn't about West, but you seem to be obsessed with it. Good Luck!

Ok falcon.....if that makes you feel better!

Win or lose, it's one hell of an accomplishment for Concord to get this far.

Hoping Beecher's injury is nothing serious.

We don't want that mentality. We want all left on the field. Not one ounce of doubt. Havelock won't feel sorry for us or take us lightly. No sense in feeling sorry for yourselves. Won't get you anywhere

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interesting fact? both teams have same fight song

Can anyone tell me what brought about Havelocks resurgence? Let's be honest, they were not good for a number of years and the town itself leaves a lot to be desired. Is Jim Bob that good a coach?

sounds like some good talent is coming up in the area...

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I saw that game last year, and I have seen enough of Havelock to know they can make good teams look bad.

Spiders are definitely underdogs here, but Havelock has to go on the road (even they they are "home") for only the 2nd time in the last eight weeks. But strange things sometimes happen. We'll see what happens.

Fall rams, Falllllllllllllllll!!

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Everything you wanted to know about Havelock: https://www.nchsaa.org/intranet/down...5&atomID=12729

Concord's capsule (which shorts the Spiders one of our 4 trips to the state title game):
https://www.nchsaa.org/intranet/down...5&atomID=12730

Why, b/c of wnchsaa?

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If I had to guess, knowing who was looking and running around to pull this together (and who does a great job), he probably glanced at the chart that has playoff and state title appearances since 1972 and didn't look back far enough to remember 1929.

The WNCHSAA titles were two others (1935 and 1947).

Wow, it just seems like Concord has been to the playoffs more than that. still impressive though.

Also mentions Vickers is heading to South Carolina...Cooper has also committed.

Their chart starts in 1972. Concord was in the WNCHSAA and no longer a member of the NCHSAA from 1930-1977, so none of those appearances qualify as NCHSAA playoffs. (even so, many years the WNCHSAA schools had some of the best football teams in the state. One can make a very strong argument that the state titles from 1930-1976, especially in 3A and 2A, did not include many of the best teams in the state. Not to take away from the teams that did win NCHSAA titles, but thats just a fact).

On top of that, have to remember that before 1985, only league champions made the playoffs. There was a half-hearted attempt to address that with the short-lived "Division II" playoffs of league runners-up from 1981-85.

Concord has been in the playoffs every year since 1985 except for 1987 (4-6, many injuries), 1995 (finished 9-1 and ranked in top 10 in the state, but only one league playoff berth due to a quirk based on a 5-team league), and 2008 (3-7).

I noticed that too. And isn't Scott committed to State?

The NCHSAA guys are throwing that thing together over the weekend between getting some of the stats Saturday afternoon and releasing it Sunday night. They'll probably have several updates before the games are played.

Not really the Western 3A was a lot weaker than in the past few years. I fully expected once the brakets came out for Concord to make it to the title game.

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BAHAHAHAHAHA... Sorry had to do that

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Making it to a title game is always a very hard thing to do. Just ask West Rowan...

Especially if you had to beat #3 from Freedom to get there with your second string qb who has ability but little experience....

Maybe that's why I thought that. I started going to Concord games in 84/85 with my father. The good ol Andre White era.

95... 5 - 0 brown..what a crappy night that was.

All jokes aside I really do hope Beecher's ok.. I believe he'll put on a show Saturday.. Don't think Concord wins, but I believe he'll have a hell of a game...

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You are right its not easy to make it to a title game much less four in a row. I wasn't trying to take anything from Concord accomplishment I just was more saying that I am not shocked that Concord made it. On the other side though I just feel like the Western 3A is not as strong as it has been in the past.

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You WR fans sound like a bunch of women on the rag.

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When one can't counter another point they typical result to childish and immature insults. Thay typical means that although they don't like the point the other side is making they can not come up with anything logical to dispute it. Thats exactly what this post tells me.

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Did Oregon lose?

I was wrong for that... well partially.. our kids sacrificed a lot to get where they are. It's just not a good look to demean their sacrifice....

Nope you just bring up how West recruits, pays the refs, or have no class.
Thats not sour grapes now is it.


By the way like I said earlier when ones point is correct it tends to lead to those who don't agree but can't counter to try to throw insults. Thats what you and your buddy JayDogg do alot but hey I will change that if you show me one thing that prooves that the 3A Western bracket was tought this year than in any of the past four years. Thats not taking anything away from Concord its just stating that the road was easier and that it was not a shock to anyone that Concord made it to the state finals.


Concord might beat Havelock who knows but if the same Concord team that showed up against West Rowan this year shows up Saturday then the game will be over by halftime.

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Huh, that could be the pot calling the kettle black. Did you here that directly or was it passed on to you? Not even going to get into the history of Rowan Co. Going back to recruiting, I did talk with a guy from Freedom last week who brought up the subject of West Rowan recruiting. Didn't know him from Adam. Kind of surprised me.

I'll say one thing and one thing only about the whole situation, the only two schools that seem to have a problem with Concord all season long were East and West Rowan. Seems to me it's not a Concord problem and more of a Rowan county problem. Read the Freedom fans remarks after last weeks game, they seemed to enjoy having us up there had no problems whatsoever. Haven't had a problem with the other 13 opponents this season including the first matchup with East, when respect is given it will be returned. But if you'll excuse us though we got more important things to worry about then if the fine folks of Rowan county like us or not.

As for the important business has anyone heard anything on BJ yet. There is no doubt even with a good defense, Concord is going to have to put some points up this week and let's be honest if BJ isn't playing putting up a bunch of points might be a pretty big challenge. Not saying it can't be done but it would probably be a whole lot easier to match score for score with #6 on the field.

Maybe Havelock will get into all of the hype of them playing N.G. or C.C. or Butler or whoever else everyone is talking about they could beat. Maybe they'll dream beyond Concord. There has been a calm about Concord over the past four weeks and I expect it to be there this week and Saturday. See you in Winston Salem.

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Dad is here to get all of the kids in line lol. Thanks dad

I don't think they should worry about Concord.. Concord has nothing. what do you think a Havelock vs NG game would be like after NG kills Catholic...Because they shouldn't worry about CC either... And Butler shouldn't worry either....Or New Bern.... All of these teams should really take the week off and not even practice.....

Me personally, I haven't said one bad thing bout any team all year... Not into bashing other plp's team.. I made this thread to get everyone's personal opinion on this matchup, but with most thread's it tends to jump off the topic at hand.. As far as the recruiting at West, stop it please who in their right mind would want to move to Mt. Ulla to play football... West has nothing and I mean nothing to offer any student over any other school in the state.. I graduated from West in '97 and have known pretty much every young man that's played on the team.. Have students moved into the West district? Yes, but tell me what school doesn't have transfers. I also believe just because you give your opinion on a game doesn't mean that you are bashing someone's team.. Concord has a fine team and has proven that all year.. I do believe that this will be by far the best team that they've face all season long. The only way one can truly talk about this game is if you've seen both teams play this year, which I seen Havelock vs NB and Concord vs West(2) & East.. That's why I said I think it would be really tough for the spiders to win..
Bottom line if both teams play their A game Havelock wins pretty easily...
If Concord brings their A and Havelock brings their B they have shot..

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I don't post here much but I'm always on here reading whether it's 4a to 1a and I have to admit, some of yall are becoming unbearable with your holier than thou posts....

And speaking of recruiting..I'm a Spider through and through..but the rumors of Spiders recruiting happens too. All good schools do it these days.

If ya ain't cheating, ya ain't trying..or so they say

I enjoyed the last 2 posters. People should never ask me what I think of kid leaving one school for the other...I think a kid should go wherever they feel comfortable as long as they can get there and nothing immoral or unethical is going on. I like what wrk said...who wants to come to mt. Ulla to go to high school?! Lol that was a good one! Anyways I think it's great no one is giving us a shot... no pressure on us!

6mvp1 you're worse than Skip Bayless on mis wording someone lol..

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no, it just means I'm tired of all the whining, I don't recall the insults when you guys made the western final, I don't think we insulted your level of play b/c you beat us Spiders. If anything we insulted ourselves for losing

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I don't have a dog in this fight. I'll never say a team doesn't have a shot. If Concord didn't have a shot, they wouldn't have made it this far. Obviously, they are for real and deserve to be there.
I seem to recall the unstoppable force Reidsville losing in the state semis back in 2004. They had an opponent at home that they had already dismantled on the road 51-6. Hmm...what happened?
It's one game... There is always a shot.

Blame it on my phone....I have a hard time with this little keyboard...

BJ does have two broken bones in the thumb. I am sure they will do what they can to give him a chance to play. Can't be easy for him to perform like normal.

any given Sunday... any given Saturday...

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When the brackets came out Hughes told me that Concord would be in the title game. He was right.

Hey the Panthers won... anything is possible...

If you all remember, last year no one gave Havelock much of a chance against West Rowan. I didn't make a prediction on the outcome last year but I knew if anyone could beat West Rowan Havelock could. I gave a break down of Havelocks strengths and weaknesses, I'll do the same this year.
I saw Havelock in person or on film 13 games this year and 25+ games over the last several years
1. Better defense compared to last year, great against the run, good against the pass, a good passing game will expose their only weakness
2. Special teams ( kicking game ) not as good this year
3. Special teams ( return game ) much better this year, don't punt it to them!
4. Offense - better run game, great screens, down field passing game not nearly as good as last year.
5. Pace of game, they run a no huttle, hurry up offense, they will wear a defense down
6. Very physical on both sides of the ball. I'd call them a little "cheap shot-ish" on their physical play but they get after it

Should be a great game, I'll miss it, damn weddings !

Ouch.

Refer to "ouch" comment above.

Special Report: It was reported that the CHS trainers had the option of replacing the thumb for BJ Beecher (Aka.. BJ3 ) with a new "Bionic" thumb or they could use the Jerry Burk method of "Rubbing some dirt on it".... the trainers choose the later of "Rubbing some dirt on it" due to its effectiveness........be Prepared Saturday to see a very dirty right hand of BJ3 and watch its effectiveness with the Passing Game.

Always... FEAT THE SPIDER!!!

Just curious when you say a weakness is a good passing game as to what you mean by that. Are you saying that a good passing team would score alot on their defense or that if you had to find a weakness in the team that is Havelocks. I just ask because a team can have a weakness but still be better than 95% of the other teams out there.

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Sorry for the confusion, If you had to find a weakness it would be their pass defense. 99.9 % of the teams in the state would love to have their
"weakness"! They have such good secondary that they will gamble and try to put pressure on the opposing offense with corner blitz's and sending linebackers, etc. This can create a little area to work on timing routes. Don't expect to break a long one but if Concord works the underneath they can have some success. Cooper, who's their starting QB is one of the best defensive backs in the state, South Carolina recruited him as a defensive back. With him @ QB he doesn't play much defense ( he hasn't so far this year). If their coaching staff feels they need extra personnel to cover the Concord passing game expect to see #22 on the defensive side of the ball. Also, watch out for #15 @ safety. His last name is Goddette, he'll hit you and send the poor soul that is on the receiving end of his hits to the sideline for the day.

Hope this helps.

For real on the thumb?

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Thanks I thought that's what you were referring too just wanted to make sure.

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